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TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 25, 2008 (5:59 AM) Return to SuburbanRider's blog
Conversation with Deborah (SillyLeslie) part 1

I received permission from Deborah to post this as I do not post other peoples information ever
without their permission. The text below is unedited copy and paste just as it took place between
us.



-----Original Message----- From: SuburbanRider Date:11/23/2008 6:56:56 AM To:SuburbanRider Subject:RE: Deborah

Ok first off this relates to a vid Syd made over on vloggerheads The big Gay Elephant and hiding behind the bible. I wanted to respond to it as a "Right Wing" "Conservative Christian" point of view. Although like many labels such as this on certain things I skew totally the other direction. I have come a long way in the last 45 years of my life from a point of being brainwashed as a child into hating people because they were gay. To totally changing my view slowly and now looking at my gay friends here and in real life as just friends. I think the brainwashing as a child started with the games on the playground among other boys. We would play and fight and get angry. The favorite "insult" to hurl at each other was "you fag" or "you homo." I only a few months ago on the phone talking to LittleStar realized this. When I was in my mid twenties I became an acquaintance of David through a mutual friend. I really tolerated him until one time he sat down at a restaurant where I was alone and broke down crying telling me about a relationship that had just broke up between him and another guy. I kept staring at him and thinking, this is just the same hurt as a straight guy talking about a girl just leaving him. This has really stuck in my mind to this very day. He did not realize to that very point I was not a good choice and only because I kept to myself my feelings did I get the chance to be there to listen and I believe he was looking for me to just listen as a source of comfort. Anyway that's about half the story let me know when you read it and have time I will continue.

Chuck


-----Original Message----- From: SillyLeslie Date:11/23/2008 7:03:14 AM To:SillyLeslie Subject:RE: Deborah

This may sound strange to you, but I had to learn to "tolerate" straight people. I came out at a very young age and for many years I thought of myself as a gay woman, not just a woman. I secretly looked down upon straight people. So, here I confess to you that I know of bigotry on a personal level, not only from the times it was directed toward me as a lesbian, but from my own inner feelings about other people. I am happy to say I now view all people as human, gender, color, religion, ethnicity, gay or straight...just humans. We're all in the same boat, it just took me a while to learn that. Thank you for sharing your experience here..I think this topic would make a great blog!

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Posted Nov 25, 08 by LittleStar      (  )
We all know my views of the great Equalizer of all Human Beings.
No one is different because of sexual orientation...otherwise, what is the label we must put on those who only self gratify? EH?...There are allot more" Wankers" in this World than we want to realize...and some do it by Words, Bullying and Prejudice.
I have had my own predjudice toward "Bible Thumpers". Through our open minded discussions and sharing, Chuck has shown me that there truely are some Christians that actually LIVE their Christianity...not just hide behind a LABEL, without substance.
What would JESUS say?...Write MORE, SR....more.....

Posted Nov 25, 08 by SillyLeslie      (  )
I've seen straight people online get immediately attacked for asking questions about gays and sharing their own experience as far as being taught how bad gays are...I think questioning and learning is a good thing. I appreciate someone who opens their mind to other points of view.
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