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Conversation with Deborah (SillyLeslie) part 2

-----Original Message----- From: SuburbanRider Date:11/23/2008 7:29:41 AM To:SuburbanRider Subject:RE: Deborah The second part of my journey into a different way of thinking started at the age of 29. That is when I asked God "if you are out there and you are real then show me" he did and at some time in the future I could continue with that branch off of the story. When I became a Christian I was around many conservative Christians still believing that God was going to send all homosexuals to hell. I even wondered that myself although at the time as a skeptic I would never take what a person said as speaking for God unless I was convinced by scripture. I studied and even became a teacher of doctrine to children preparing to enter the fullness of their faith in God. I saw in the scriptures that God judges each person in the light of what they know and believe. It also says God is a better parent to us than our own parents. What parent would condemn a child for doing something in a wrong manner if you can see the child does not fully understand. A good parent would never do that. We are also not under the law of the Hebrew scriptures. We are led by the power of God's spirit to teach us. That says to me that if a person is gay and does not believe it is wrong they are not held accountable for that as sin. I also as a teacher of Christian doctrine have to leave open the possibility always that I may get a particular point of scripture wrong myself. I am not any more qualified to set myself up to be the voice of God than any other Christian. I still have two issues I have yet to resolve in my mind. There are gay people who struggle because they themselves in being Christians struggle between wanting to have a life long loving relationship and wanting to follow what they themselves see as proper behavior. I also have not yet resolved in my mind that it is objectively a correct behavior as I see scripture at this time. That said I see many of my gay friends showing more love and true character in their lives and day to day behavior than many of my Christian friends. When I first saw Syds video I was going to jump on the bike and turn on the camera and make a response vid. I have thought of this more and the last thing I want to do is bring any hurt or torment to my friends that I love so dearly. My friends that are gay in real life and on here do not seem very anxious to want to talk to me about these things. I can't say I blame them based on past stories about confrontations with friends and family when the situation became known.

I ask you Deborah not from your view point but overall do you think this would be of help or cause pain? I do not want this to be looked at as me putting out a story to get views at the expense of people like you that I care for.
(Big Biker Hugs)
Chuck

Sent: 11/23/2008 9:21:46 AM Subject: RE: Deborah I can't speak to how other people might react to your story and your thoughts, but I find it interesting. I tyhink you should express yourself and relate your experiences.

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Posted Nov 29, 08 by SillyLeslie (

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I am somewhat surprised and honored that you have memorialized our emails here. It seems to me that honest, open discussions are a good thing, whether the subject matter is controversial or not. I like sincerity; your's shows.